Here’s what most founders don’t realize: that $100K in “attributed revenue” on your affiliate dashboard? A huge chunk would have happened anyway—without paying a single commission.
You’re funding partners to take credit for customers already coming through your door. Josh Kennedy calls this the “$20 billion mistake”—a broken system where loyalty platforms like Honey and Capital One Shopping sit in the last five minutes of checkout and collect commissions on purchases that were already happening.
Josh founded Imagine Marketing in 2020 to fix this. Coming from outside the traditional affiliate industry, he saw what insiders wouldn’t admit: even “premier” agencies were built on lower-funnel partners contributing zero incremental value. Since launch, his team has generated over $10 million in documented affiliate revenue by flipping the script—focusing on upper-funnel content partnerships that drive new customers instead of intercepting existing ones.
Whether you’re launching your first affiliate program or managing a mature partnership ecosystem, this episode breaks down what’s broken and how to build something that actually works.
Let’s dive in.
What You’ll Learn
✅ Why 2/3 of standard affiliate partnerships are profit drains— Loyalty platforms and coupon sites sit in the last five minutes of checkout, collecting commissions on customers already buying, without delivering incremental value.
✅ The attribution flaw making cannibalization invisible— Last-click attribution credits whoever touches the customer last, even if they contributed nothing to the decision, obscuring how much revenue would’ve happened anyway.
✅ How to identify partners actually driving new customers— Josh’s framework for auditing your program, spotting partners gaming the system, and why upper-funnel content partnerships (comparison sites, YouTube reviews) deliver measurably better results.
✅ The search-first strategy behind $10M in real revenue— Reverse-engineer partner discovery by researching where customers already search for solutions, then build relationships with those specific creators and sites with actual traffic.
✅ Why Q4 and Q1 maximize affiliate impact— High purchase intent during holidays and New Year momentum create ideal windows to launch or restructure your program with a 90-day pilot.
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Episode Summary
Josh Kennedy didn’t come up through the traditional affiliate marketing world—and that’s exactly why he spotted what everyone else missed. While working at a “premier” affiliate agency that got acquired during his tenure, he looked behind the dashboard and discovered their top 10 revenue-driving partners weren’t creating any value. They were just intercepting customers in the final moments before checkout and collecting commissions on sales that were already happening.
The math is broken across the industry. Loyalty platforms like Honey and Capital One Shopping plus coupon sites make up two-thirds of most affiliate programs, but they sit in the lower funnel doing nothing except gaming last-click attribution. A customer finds you through a YouTube review, joins your email list, goes through your nurture sequence, then clicks Honey to check for coupons—and Honey gets 100% credit while the YouTuber who actually drove discovery gets nothing.
Josh’s solution flips the entire model. Instead of recruiting affiliates through networks and hoping they promote you, Imagine Marketing reverse-engineers partner discovery through search research. They identify where your customers are already searching—specific comparison articles, YouTube channels, review sites with real traffic—then build direct relationships with those creators. For one international client, this uncovered 150 high-value content placements across the US, UK, and Australia that genuinely influence purchase decisions at the awareness stage, not the checkout flow. This content-first approach has generated over $10 million in documented revenue, and Josh backs it with a 90-day pilot so brands can test if it works for their stage and category before committing.
Strategic Takeaways
👉 Audit your top 10 partners for cannibalization. Pull your highest-revenue affiliates and ask: are these driving new customers or intercepting existing ones? If loyalty platforms (Rakuten, Capital One), coupon sites (RetailMeNot, Honey), or toolbar extensions dominate your list, you’re likely paying commissions on sales that were already happening.
👉 Switch to multi-touch attribution to reveal true performance. Last-click systematically rewards whoever touches customers last—meaning lower-funnel partners gaming checkout always win while upper-funnel creators who influenced the decision get no credit. Use first-click or multi-touch models to see which partners generate awareness versus harvest existing demand.
👉 Reverse-engineer partner discovery through search research. Instead of recruiting through networks and hoping affiliates promote you, start with where customers already search. Identify comparison articles, YouTube reviews, and blog posts ranking for your target queries, then build direct relationships with creators who have traffic and trust.
👉 Prioritize upper-funnel content partnerships over checkout interception. SEO blogs, comparison sites, YouTube reviewers, and editorial content sit at awareness and consideration stages where they genuinely influence decisions. They’re harder to recruit than coupon networks, but they deliver measurably better incrementality by reaching customers before purchase intent locks in.
👉 Launch or restructure during Q4/Q1 for maximum momentum. High purchase intent during Black Friday/Cyber Monday and New Year resolution season makes October through February ideal for affiliate programs. You can build relationships with content partners planning holiday guides or use purchase volume to prove which partners perform versus ride your coattails.
👉 Test incrementality by pausing partnerships and measuring revenue impact. The only way to confirm a partner drives incremental value is to pause the relationship and track what happens. If stopping commissions to a loyalty platform barely affects revenue, you’ve proven they were cannibalizing existing sales—giving you empirical data on which partnerships justify their cost.
Guest Spotlight
Josh Kennedy
Founder, Imagine Marketing
Josh Kennedy founded Imagine Marketing in 2020 to fix what he calls the “$20 billion mistake”—the systemic cannibalization built into traditional affiliate programs. Coming into the industry as an outsider in 2017, he launched affiliate programs for CBD and CPG brands without the usual “schooling” from networks and agencies, giving him fresh eyes to spot what insiders had been ignoring for decades.
His perspective crystallized while working at a premier affiliate agency that got acquired during his tenure. Behind the scenes, the performance backbone was built entirely on lower-funnel partners—loyalty platforms and coupon sites intercepting existing purchase intent rather than driving new customers. Even through the acquisition, the optics looked stellar while the reality told a different story.
Since launching Imagine Marketing, Josh’s team has generated over $10 million in documented affiliate revenue by flipping the traditional model. Instead of recruiting through networks, they reverse-engineer partner discovery through search research—identifying where customers are already looking for solutions, then building direct relationships with content creators who have real traffic and trust. This upper-funnel approach focuses on partnerships that influence decisions at awareness and consideration stages, not just collect commissions at checkout.
What sets Josh apart isn’t just the strategy shift—it’s his willingness to be honest when affiliate marketing isn’t the right fit. He’d rather audit first and tell you to focus elsewhere than chase retainer fees on programs that won’t deliver. That integrity, combined with proven results, makes Imagine Marketing the go-to partner for brands ready to build programs that actually drive incremental growth.
Links & Resources
Connect with Josh & Imagine Marketing:
- Imagine Marketing– Get a complimentary affiliate program audit or explore their 90-day pilot ($999, no obligation)
Affiliate Platforms & Tracking:
- Impact– Affiliate network with multi-touch attribution
- Everflow– Cookieless affiliate tracking platform
- SEMrush– Keyword research tool for mid-funnel gap analysis
Essential Tools:
- Littledata– Server-side tracking for accurate attribution (Episode Sponsor)
- Shopify– Power your DTC store
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