
At the Grin Gets Real Podcast we’ve had the opportunity to talk with industry leaders and experts in the world of influencer marketing. We’ve interviewed academics, agency directors, and representatives from various software platforms on which practices work best and how to get the most out of an influencer program. We asked each of our guests what they expect as we move from this tumultuous year into 2021, and what we should look out for. Here is a breakdown of their insights.

Steve Hutt is the Merchant Success Manager at Shopify Plus and host of the eCommerce Fastlane Podcast. At Shopify Plus, he is a strategic advisor and he works closely with brands to help them develop winning online strategies. Steve identifies two aspects of influencer marketing that bring the most ROI for brands. Steve predicts these will become the standard going into 2021.
“There’s lots of tools available to understand the social footprint of the people that are actually buying from you, and then creating an outreach campaign to start nurturing those people.” – Steve Hutt, Shopify Plus

Neal Schaffer has been studying, lecturing and writing about digital marketing strategy for many years. In recent years he’s become increasingly interested in the role of influencer marketing and how brands can leverage their own customers to spread the word and grow their following online. Neal has been preaching for a while about the importance of choosing actual fans of your brand to populate your influencer programs. As we enter 2021, he is finally seeing the industry starting to shift in that direction.
“I believe that companies that don’t collaborate with influencers are going to be spending more and more money on paid social, as it becomes less and less effective over time.” – Neal Schaffer

Sara Grosz is the head of Influencer Marketing at digital marketing agency, Mute Six. Sara works with brands to develop influencer campaign strategies with specific goals that fit into the larger marketing plan. Sara has tips on how to effectively recruit influencers using email as a conversation and she is passionate about repurposing user generated content as creatively as possible. But Sarah also sees pitfalls that many brands encounter. Here are two specific issues to look out for in 2021.
“Something that a lot of brands overlook… the captions are such great testimonials, like it is some of the best.” – Sara Grosz, Mute Six

Mac Enright has spent his whole young career at Lumanu, and he is the expert on the growing sector of influencer whitelisting. As algorithms change across both established and newer platforms, whitelisting is increasingly becoming one of the best ways for brands and influencers to work together in a mutually beneficial capacity. Since whitelisting is still fairly new, many brands are unfamiliar with how it works. Mac predicts this is going to change quickly in 2021 based on a couple important reasons.
“Whitelisting is a really great way to get creators to engage with their audiences, whether they’re boosting their own posts, whitelisting their own posts, or working with brands to supercharge an influencer’s organic posts.” – Mac Enright, Lumanu

From her experience as a satellite radio rock DJ to her founding of Lately, Kate Chernis is the expert on how to build engaged audiences through using the right words. Lately uses AI automation to turn longform content, like podcasts or books, into dozens of impactful social posts. Trained as a copywriter, Kate understands that the most powerful combination is when AI and human creativity come together. Her experience working for Walmart and getting them 130% ROI has given Kate perspective on what will work best going into 2021.
“The reality is, it doesn’t matter how good you are at manifesting butts in seats… You’re gonna get exponentially more eyeballs if you clip out the best quotes and push them out over time.” – Kate Chernis, Lately

Next Step, founded by Shirin Oreizy, is a Behavioural Marketing Agency that uses the latest research in behavioural science to understand why people are making decisions about your brand. She uses those findings to direct brands on different aspects of their marketing and beyond. Some of the behavioural science principles that Shirin and her colleagues study are pretty fixed, while others can change dramatically depending on the specific product or service as well as from external circumstances. Coronavirus is an external factor that has impacted everyone on the planet. Shirin identifies how this will affect the way marketers approach things in the new year.
“Really thinking about how you can rebuild the emotional connection to your brand and create connection for people… Is something that I think marketers will continue to need to work on and grapple with.” – Shirin Oreizy, Next Step
The experts we interviewed in the Grin Gets Real Podcast provide insights and actionable tips on how brands can leverage influencer marketing to grow their reach online in 2021. We heard from Steve Hutt (Shopify) and Neal Schaffer (Age of Influence) about how to achieve greater authenticity with your influencers. Agency representatives Sara Grosz (Mute Six) and Mac Enright (Lumanu) gave tips on how to best leverage influencer content and increase your reach. And both Kate Chernis (Lately) and Shirin Oreizy (Next Step) provided insight on where brands should focus their energy to really move the needle as we move into the new year.
If you want to hear more on how influencer marketing can help your brand in 2021, tune in to the Grin Gets Real Podcast available wherever you get your podcasts.